tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27256617.post8563289798063757805..comments2024-02-19T03:21:42.482+08:00Comments on CHARLES HECTOR: Pregnant Malaysian mum wrongfully detained in Migrant Detention Centre for 11+ monthsCharles Hectorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10962669552161424734noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27256617.post-8281880927465501732008-09-10T05:44:00.000+08:002008-09-10T05:44:00.000+08:00This is horrible to show Malaysian police are fool...This is horrible to show Malaysian police are fools and idiots. We all know they practice 'muslim-boleh' concept to become the main favourite employees but we cannot see the growth of idiotics in all over malaysia. Isnt there any tamil speaking officer was sent to investigate her case when she was detained ? Malaysian means no requirement one must speak Malay. So many chinese cant speak malay too. Where is the justice served for citizens ? This pregnant mother who suffered MUST be compensated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27256617.post-71996209724270176902008-09-09T04:47:00.000+08:002008-09-09T04:47:00.000+08:00If one is caught not having an ID the procedure is...If one is caught not having an ID the procedure is to sent her to court.<BR/>If one not able to recollect owns ID number the procedure is to scans the person thumb prints.<BR/>Thats the MAIN reason as to why we PAID MEGA MILLIONs to have MyCard.<BR/><BR/>Some of you here left cruel comments without knowing, understanding , seeking the truth,common sense,basic procedures and human rights.<BR/><BR/>She do not speaks Bahasa Melayu, same here.<BR/>She can't sings the negaraku , same here as well.<BR/>She can't remembers her ID number , non of my late grands recollects anything .<BR/>She don't know wheres she is from , she knows...but the imigresen/polis whatever don't speaks her language.<BR/>She might be a bit mentally challenge.<BR/>She might be terrified, me too when a bunch of idiots in RELA uniform trying to knocks down my front door at 3 am.<BR/>She was caught by polis ( according to media ).<BR/><BR/>You and I paid 11 months to house a Malaysian in a detention depot for illegal immigrants.<BR/>You and I paid months of expenses to delivers her baby.<BR/>You and I paid something for nothing!<BR/>because non of the government servants are functional.<BR/><BR/>She was lucky when someone from the clinic was alert .<BR/>She was lucky that Andrew from Mic youth heard her story.<BR/>Yes , he is from the Mic but good work deserves to be mention.<BR/>This case is not about politics.<BR/>But Andrew was not so lucky , he was given a lot of run around in PutraJaya armed with just a birth certificate number.<BR/>A Malaysian was given the run around in PutraJaya! It should read that way.<BR/><BR/>This also means that such detention centres do NOT have regular visitation by officers or they did NOT bother.<BR/>This also means that the mega MILLIONs worth of MyCard equipment/thumb scanners/readers are NOT in place.<BR/>This also means non of the arresting officers followed procedures.<BR/><BR/>Even if her husband/relative were to go to the Brickfield station to look for her will certainly fail.As the "arrest" was not recorded in a proper way.<BR/>Upon her release day, government or the "imigresen direktor" arrogantly said in press release that - Immigration Department enforcement chief Datuk Ishak Mohamed said that the burden of proof of citizenship was on the person suspected of being an illegal immigrant. The new Criminal Procedure Code also allows the suspect to make phone calls to anyone who can help,” he said, pointing out that the police had picked her up, not Immigration officials.<BR/><BR/>“But, please, don’t tell me that after 22 years, you cannot speak Bahasa Malaysia? You mean she would not know how to sing Negaraku either?<BR/><BR/>Submit her case to the court, she have a solid case.<BR/>Note - If badawi can openly say saifool was the 'victim" why not this case? -Khun Pana aka johanssmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04744686635306410776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27256617.post-44931657879227413362008-09-08T11:08:00.000+08:002008-09-08T11:08:00.000+08:00What compensation? I am sick and tired of this att...What compensation? <BR/><BR/>I am sick and tired of this attack on the authotiries for doing their job. <BR/><BR/>The authorities must follow the law and charge her for not having her I.C. which is a strict liability offence.<BR/><BR/>If she was Indonesian, y'all be calling the authorities to send her back and even demand she pay the fare.<BR/><BR/>Just because she is Malaysian Indian, y'all come to her defence.<BR/><BR/>Y'all want authorities to act tough on illegal immigrants nay y'all actually want authorities to act tough on undocumented Indonesian and Filipino guest workers but not those from the subcontinent.<BR/><BR/>Isn't this double standards.<BR/><BR/>I agree with anonymous, she is responsible for her own misfortune, even Andrew Raju initially couldn't trace her identity or check out her story as she is being vague about her own life's story nor could she remenber her ic no. <BR/><BR/>You expect the authorities with thousands of undocumented or suspected undocumented foreigners to devote resourses to check. <BR/><BR/>In english legal precedent, it is for the person who claims to have a valid liquor license to produce it in Court. <BR/><BR/>The same principles apply here.<BR/><BR/>It was incumbent for her to produce the I C.. All the information given by her to the authorities did not match. <BR/><BR/>This is the same case as that Chinese boy who actually deliberately concealed his mother's whereabouts and ended in jail.<BR/><BR/>I was told by my mother to have my IC. with me all the time when I was growing up and memorise the number. DOnt blame the authorities when they follow the law.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27256617.post-77155332336800097682008-09-08T09:41:00.000+08:002008-09-08T09:41:00.000+08:00Someone pls advise her to carry her IC, Passport o...Someone pls advise her to carry her IC, Passport or at least a paper ID document the next time she decides to go on a long trip. Or at least learn BM (its malaysia's official language in case she hasn't heard) or remember where she was born.<BR/><BR/>If she can't even manage this, then she probably deserved to be locked up.fade0https://www.blogger.com/profile/08584843057271641376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27256617.post-22527036418784571152008-09-08T08:45:00.000+08:002008-09-08T08:45:00.000+08:00Ha ha... staying in Malaysia anything can happen.....Ha ha... staying in Malaysia anything can happen...the Immigration should do a thorough checking on her status even though she cant remember her IC number... then for what the immigration officers get their monthly paid? The authority dont even know where she is from, then where else they want to deport her? Nonsense...Vijayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04498920588922316224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27256617.post-7627592019282831032008-09-08T08:29:00.000+08:002008-09-08T08:29:00.000+08:00The end result of having a HP6 immigration and eve...The end result of having a HP6 immigration and even more dumber judge . The government must pay . They are now used to getting away withmurder an stealing and killing people in cells ...so they think everything is dandy......its time the government pays.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27256617.post-59503044128765973042008-09-08T04:06:00.000+08:002008-09-08T04:06:00.000+08:00I also think that she should be compensated. How m...I also think that she should be compensated. How much i don't know. But my question is why this had dragged on for so long? Surely she had tried to communicate in her mother tongue or had at least furnished some basic information. The answer is probably no one cared enough to take up the case for this "nobody" until Andrew Raju came along. Even he admitted it was difficult but he persevered. While some may say that she could not even remember her number,address, speak bahasa etc Well, she probably can't even read and write lah..this case reflects how some groups in our country get marginalised and end up as the victims of the system. We are still very third world!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27256617.post-57748952160363695182008-09-07T23:33:00.000+08:002008-09-07T23:33:00.000+08:00To Anonymous at 5.46pm: Heartless lah you. This is...To Anonymous at 5.46pm: Heartless lah you. This is Malaysia lah, for God's sake! Couldnt they have found even one Tamil speaking person to ask her. Isn't there such a thing as a window period where they give her a chance to produce her IC or details thereof? This incident clearly shows how merciless and highhanded our authorities are, esp in the case of Indians or anyone who looks like Indian. It is common knowledge how they constantly harrass even legitimate foreign employees. I dread to think how many more are incarcerated in prisons and detention centres due to the overzealousness of the police, RELA and immigration. And to Anonymous who posted at 8.13pm: very cheap, the rate you suggest! A pregnant woman lost her freedom at the start of her third and most difficult trimester, gave birth in detention without her loved ones nearby and she and her baby have been in the centre for so many months. I was outraged to read of her plight. I think she deserves to be compensated much more. At least then next time the authorities will be a bit more cautious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27256617.post-40369101297860323182008-09-07T23:25:00.000+08:002008-09-07T23:25:00.000+08:00To the idiot of a naysayer above - she wasn't deta...To the idiot of a naysayer above - she wasn't detain for a week, a month but eleven months !!! Add injury to insult, had to give birth under detention.<BR/><BR/>A reasonable sum as compensation is definitely in order and lets hope this is done voluntarily instead of getting her to jump through hoops, have to engage counsel to cut the red tape.casper chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16626758902850995912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27256617.post-67255167922526417352008-09-07T23:06:00.000+08:002008-09-07T23:06:00.000+08:00"she did not have a legal identity...she did not r..."she did not have a legal identity...she did not remember her i/c" so says anonymous.<BR/>The fact is no one bothered to be interested in another fellow Malaysian probably because it was easier to settle the case based on the authorities assumptions.<BR/>If Andrew Raju on his own initiative could in about 2 weeks find out who she was surely all the organs of Govt with all the national resources on tap also have done the same. The trouble is nobody cared about another statistic.<BR/>I believe the Govt has a responsbility to give care even to "idiots".Justicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11041345205008271996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27256617.post-71359431855736494252008-09-07T22:27:00.000+08:002008-09-07T22:27:00.000+08:00WRONG IS WRONG, DONE OR SAID SOMETHING WRONG MUST ...WRONG IS WRONG, DONE OR SAID SOMETHING WRONG MUST PAID 4IT.<BR/>HOW WRONG IS IT AND WILL BECOME HOW PAID 4IT.<BR/><BR/>How TO expect the immigration authorities to do their job BETTER and the LOWEST MISTAKE is their OFFICER DUTY AND RESPONSIBILITY.<BR/><BR/>THIS IS JUST MY VIEWS ONLY.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27256617.post-23054448118223054682008-09-07T20:13:00.000+08:002008-09-07T20:13:00.000+08:00Compensation is certainly deserved in the case of ...Compensation is certainly deserved in the case of Rajeshvari and her child. RM6 million, however, is somewhat excessive. I'd think RM10,000 for every month she was stupidly detained would be adequate. That would provide the lady with a total settlement of RM110,000 - which should help her sort her life out.Starmandalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03349987009726416189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27256617.post-73019558518293131442008-09-07T19:46:00.000+08:002008-09-07T19:46:00.000+08:00Hah! Malaysia "Boleh"....Hah! Malaysia "Boleh"....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27256617.post-54165916774244270512008-09-07T18:14:00.000+08:002008-09-07T18:14:00.000+08:00A Tribute to RPK For Your Dreams. (Suatu Penghorma...A Tribute to RPK For Your Dreams. (Suatu Penghormatan kepada RPK atas Impian Mu)<BR/><BR/>-------------------------------<BR/><BR/>The latest news about RPK in Malaysiakini and Malaysia Today, that he would be detained under the ISA have moved me to dedicate this speech by one of the great Freedom Fighters in the world, Martin Luther King Jr. " I Have a Dream" to him.<BR/><BR/>(Berita terbaru tentang RPK di Malaysiakini dan Malaysia Today, bahawa beliau akan ditahan dibawah ISA telah mengharukan hati saya untuk mendedikasikan ucapan oleh seorang Pejuang Kebebasan Dunia, Martin Luther King Jr. bertajuk "Saya ada Impian" kepada beliau.)<BR/><BR/>Let us reminiscent over it at http://patek1472.wordpress.com<BR/><BR/>(Marilah kita mengenangkan tentangnya di http://patek1472.wordpress.com )Nostradamushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02789487637995258318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27256617.post-42071963509022397342008-09-07T17:46:00.000+08:002008-09-07T17:46:00.000+08:00I dont think anyone should compensate or apologise...I dont think anyone should compensate or apologise. The reason is simple -- she did not have a legal identity (IC) heck she did not even remember her IC. If this case was to be compensated then hundreds of thousands of cases will arise. How would you then expect the immigration authorities to do their job?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com