Thanks to Husam, PAS clarifies doubts about PAS-UMNO relationship? But not over yet...

Thanks to Husam Musa, Hadi Awang has clarified that PAS's stance is that it will not be joining Barisan Nasional. 

There were doubts or 'rumours' , even before Husam raised this concerns, that PAS may be having plans to form some sort of unity government with UMNO in Selangor and elsewhere. Well, the matter has been clarified, and Hadi says PAS will never join BN.

But the question remains, whether there were indeed 'meetings' with UMNO personalities - this was not specifically denied. 

Meetings could have been held to discuss matters even with UMNO - and that, I believe, is not wrong for so long as there was no plans or agreement. A political party has many members - and different members will have different views on different subjects. 

The democratic party's current position will be what the majority of members' position is. This is sometime made stone certain and binding by means of a Resolution passed at the General Meeting of the party. 

The UMNO/BN understanding may be very different. 

In a less democratic group, this may be happening. There, after the membership elects the leaders - the leaders(or just one leader) decide on what the party's position. Members will not be consulted - let alone be involved in the decision making. This may be OK for matters where the party already has a position - but may not be OK for new matters.

A decision like whether PAS should form a join-government with UMNO > Well, this will be a matter that needs to definitely go back to the membership for their approval. Neither the President or even the currently elected highest leadership can make any such decision.

Now, being President or office bearer - more care needs to be exercised as anything that they do or say can easily be taken as the position of the political party. So, even if Hadi Awang in his 'own time' or personal capacity had anything to do with arranging a meeting or attending a meeting discussing possible forming of a 'coalition government with UMNO', it is bad even though Hadi or the said office bearers really never had any such intention of following through with that idea. Here is where transparency and accountability is important > and Husam Musa may have done something very good for PAS...and also all those of us who want an alternative to the UMNO-BN government. Hadi's clarification of the PAS position certainly settles a lot of rumours and doubts..

Should Husam have just raised it through the 'proper channel'(a phrase commonly used by our PM and the BN).

Well what is the proper channel? 
# The President of the Party > well, the allegation/issue concerns him - so very difficult
# The Office Bearers - same problem maybe
# The members of PAS - well, he would not have access to ALL the members, would he - more so since he was no more an Office Bearer..

'People are the Boss' - right, and in any organization, the membership are the BOSS.  

But, since this is issue is so fundamental to the Opposition Coalition/Government > it becomes a concern to every Malaysian, remembering that more that 50% of the people who voted in the last General Elections voted against the BN.

Could he have not waited for the General Meeting? No - best to highlight a possible wrong NOW - to delay highlighting would also make you guilty of indirectly allowing a wrong to go on... and the party will suffer most. Like an disease outbreak, it is best always to tackle it immediately - best even before it affects people...

Now, that some issues of possible wrongdoings have been highlighted, what will PAS do? 

Rightly, they need to first consider whether is amounts to a wrongdoing or not? If yes, then naturally an investigation need to be commenced? 

OR will the PAS, behave like our BN government, and target the 'whistle-blower' ? We shall see...we shall see..

* More matters have arisen since this reports - and I hope to deal with it in my future posts..
   
  

Sunday November 15, 2015 MYT 10:29:59 PM

Abdul Hadi: PAS’ stand is clear - it will never join Barisan

by allison lai

SHAH ALAM: PAS will never join Barisan Nasional, reiterates Datuk Seri Abdul Hadi Awang (pic).

The PAS president said although there was a cooperation between the parties during the 70s, it will never happen again.

''PAS will never join Barisan. Our stance is firm and clear.

''But we will still work with them in tackling national and development issues.

''We want to be the Opposition party that advises the Government,'' he said when met after attending a PAS hi-tea convention here Sunday.

Asked if former PAS vice-president Datuk Husam Musa's allegation that Abdul Hadi ‎wanted to form a unity government with Umno during the Selangor mentri besar crisis last year was true, Abdul Hadi said it was not. ''No such thing. He (Husam) was in Kelantan. He was not involved, how will he know?''

Asked if PAS offered several PKR assemblymen to join PAS in order to form a unity government in Selangor, Abdul Hadi denied it.

''Did you see it happened? If not, ‎then there was no such thing,'' he said.

Abdul Hadi also noted that such allegations were ketinggalan zaman (outdated) as these were old issues during the 70s.

''‎Unity government did not mean (cooperation) with Barisan alone but it involved all parties.

''There was an attempt in 2008 but many did not agree, so it did not work,'' he said.

Asked on Husam's statement that he was willing to swear to divorce his wife to prove that his claim about the PAS-Umno unity government was true, Abdul Hadi merely responded ''let him be''.

''If (Husam thinks that) what he said was right and we were lying, please swear,'' he added.

Abdul Hadi also said that the Islamist party's central leadership was waiting for a report from Kelantan PAS whether to allow disciplinary action to be taken against Husam ‎for his critical stance against the state government.

''Any action has to be based on report of the central leadership.

''We do not rely on Facebook or any baseless report,'' he said during a question-and-answer session, adding that disciplinary actions could be in a form of termination, suspension, duty discharge or counselling. - Star, 15/11/2015

PAS faces a new dilemma in Husam Musa

BY ZULKIFLI SULONG

Published: 15 November 2015 7:41 PM

After some of its leaders left PAS to form Parti Amanah Negara, the Islamist party is facing another dilemma as one of its most influential persoanlities, Datuk Husam Musa, is attacking it from within. – The Malaysian Insider filepic, November 15, 2015.. 

 

After some of its more well-known leaders left PAS to form Parti Amanah Negara (Amanah), the Islamist party is now facing another dilemma as one of its most influential persoanlities, Datuk Husam Musa, is attacking it from within.

Known as the “harumanis phenomenon”, PAS’ leadership is seeing some of its more iconic members speaking up against the party from within.

Aside from Husam, another “harumanis” leader who is making waves is Pokok Sena MP Datuk Mahfuz Omar.
Husam’s one-man dialogue session in Kota Bharu on Friday night managed to attract about 10,000 viewers. 

 

Half of them packed the small Kelab Suara Muda hall, while others watched the session streamed live on Youtube. “The stream was gridlocked,” said political analyst Mohamad Hisomudin Bakar of the Ilham Centre when asked about the reception towards the event.
 

Hisomudin, who also watched the event on Youtube, said the phenomenon has a huge impact on PAS which is still reeling from the exodus of its leaders and members to Amanah.
 

For Husam, it was as if the former Kelantan senior state executive council member had risen from his sickbed after a seven-month illness that paralysed one side of his face.
 

“In fact right now, I still have not fully recuperated,” said Husam, a one-time PAS vice-president who disappeared from public view since May due to his illness, on Friday.
 

Husam was clearly emotional as he talked about how he had been slandered by his fellow party members and why he had to speak up now against the party’s decisions.
Comments on social media on the event showed that many supported him.
 

“PAS members, especially in Kelantan, look more sympathetic towards Husam compared to other PAS leaders in Kelantan,” said veteran PAS commentator A. Shukur Harun on Friday's dialogue session.
 

The PAS central committee, meanwhile, has called on Husam to explain his comments before any decision is made concerning the latter’s future in PAS.
 

“This is the party’s way – we are ready to listen,” said PAS deputy president Datuk Tuan Ibrahim Tuan Man, at a press conference after the CEC meeting yesterday.
 

In the dialogue session, Husam stressed that he would remain in PAS despite disagreeing with its leadership and the party’s management of the Kelantan government.
 

Husam borrowed the words of Brutus, a character from the Shakespearean play Julius Caesar when asked why he openly attacked the party’s president Datuk Seri Abdul Hadi Awang.
 

“I love the party and the struggle more than I love the president.”
 

Yet Husam also told a story of his dedication to Hadi, when he and three other party leaders flew to Turkey last year when the president was taken ill in Istanbul while on a working visit.
 

Husam and the PAS leaders who made the trip only managed to see Hadi for three to four minutes, but the visit he said, calmed their fears.
 

When asked why he had not joined Amanah, which was filled with his friends from PAS, Husam likened the situation to that of the giant, tragic cruise ship, the Titanic.
 

Like all big ships, Husam said, the Titanic had smaller lifeboats to evacuate its passengers if it sank.
 

“Many of my friends have left this big ship for these lifeboats, but I am steadfastly remaining on it because it has not sunk yet,” said Husam. – November 15, 2015.

- See more at: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/pas-faces-a-new-dilemma-in-husam-musa#sthash.0eQcXA1j.dpuf

November 16, 2015 MYT 5:28:35 PM

Mustafa Ali tells Husam to stop false claim of unity govt

by sharanpal singh randhawa

KUALA TERENGGANU: Datuk Mustafa Ali has chided former PAS vice-president Datuk Husam Musa (pic) for not telling the truth about PAS and Umno working together for a unity government.

He said, however, he knew of a meeting between PAS leaders and former Prime Minister Tun Abdullah Ahmad Badawi several days after the 2008 general election.

He said the PAS leaders involved were Khalid Samad, Nasarudin Mat Isa and himself ( Mustafa Ali) from PAS while Umno's representatives were Abdullah and former Selangor Mentri Besar Datuk Seri Dr Khir Toyo.

Mustafa, who is PAS election committee chairman, said Husam's claims that a meeting, attended by PAS president Datuk Seri Abdul Hadi Awang, to discuss on PAS forming a unity government with Umno was not true.

"It is totally false that Husam had claimed that Hadi had invited current Selangor Mentri Besar Azmin Ali to join PAS," he told a press conference at the state PAS office here.

"I am seriously not sure where Husam got his facts from but such allegations made by him are totally untrue," he said.

In his article in a Sinar Harian recently, Husam claimed that a meeting was held by Hadi, Khalid and himself at a hotel to discuss a unity government with Barisan Nasional.

"Being a close friend to Husam, I believe that it is time for me to advice my friend to stop all the lies. It's my humble request for him to comeback to the right path," Mustafa said.- Star, 16/11/2015

Hadi denies plan to form government with BN during Selangor MB crisis

BY YASMIN RAMLAN

Published: 15 November 2015 11:02 PM

Datuk Seri Abdul Hadi Awang reiterateds PAS' stand that the Islamist party will never join Barisan Nasional. – The Malaysian Insider pic by Seth Akmal, November 15, 2015. 

 

Datuk Seri Abdul Hadi Awang today reiterated PAS' stand that the Islamist party will never join Barisan Nasional.

Denying claims by former party vice-president Datuk Husam Musa that he wanted to form a unity government with Umno during the Selangor menteri besar crisis last year, the PAS president said such was an outdated notion.

He said attempts to form such cooperation was an issue during the 70s and it will never happen again.

"He is outdated in his thinking. That was the issue in the 70s. Unity government does not mean joining BN." 

 

Hadi said that there was no attempt to form unity government last year, but instead in 2008 on the federal level.

“We tried to work on a unity government in 2008, but because many parties did not agree to it, it did not happen,” he said.

On Husam's latest statement saying he was prepared to take an oath to divorce his wife should he be proven wrong, Hadi challenged the Salor assemblyman to do so.

"Let him take the oath. Let him take it. If he thinks he is right and we are the ones lying, he is free to utter the oath,” Hadi told a press conference in Shah Alam today.

Stressing that an unity government with BN will not be repeated, he said cooperation with the ruling coalition will only involve tackling national and development issues.

"PAS will not join BN, but there will be cooperation. Cooperation is a normal thing. (But) We are not bound by it," he said.

He said cooperation will happen in the event of a foreign invasion, in terms of dealing with crime, drugs and issues on refugees from Rohingya, Palestine and Bosnia.

As for Husam's status in the party, Hadi said the party will leave the matter to the Kelantan PAS to decide if disciplinary action will be taken against Husam. – November 15, 2015.

 

- See more at: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/hadi-denies-plan-to-form-government-with-umno-during-selangor-mb-crisis#sthash.yBpvMR30.dpuf