Monday, October 22, 2018

Terrorist - Who does Malaysia consider 'Terrorists', Terrorist Ideology/Books? Siti Noor Aishah Atam? What happend to 8 arrested?

TERRORIST  - Who does Malaysia consider terrorist? Does Malaysia consider all that the US says are 'terrorist' also terrorist as far as Malaysia is concerned? Does Malaysia consider HAMAS(the Palestinian political party that won in Gaza in their elections) or the Muslim Brotherhood(that once successfully won the Egyptian Elections) terrorists? 

During the time Malaysia was colonized by the British, during the cold war between those countries with the capitalist ideology and those countries with the socialist/communist ideology, the British considered those that resorted to arms struggle for the independence of Malaya, being mainly those linked to the Communist Party of Malaya, the British called them 'communist terrorist' - something which UMN0-led government post-independence continued to advocate. 

Today, Malaysia recognizes many communist states, and have diplomatic and trade relationships. Does Malaysia still consider those who advocate the 'communist' ideology terrorists?

US and many nations have simply identified those that are not friendly to their interests as enemies - even 'terrorist' regimes/groups. The British colonialist also did the same to those that had a tendency to jeopardise their citizen's economic interest, and in Malaya, that included those who fought for independence using armed struggle, including also others who did not resort to 'armed struggle' but were vocal and active including trade unions and groups. Laws were enacted to weaken and control such groups including societies, trade unions, etc...

Recently,  those who were promoting 'ideology of Salafi Jihadism' were arrested under Malaysia's anti-terrorist laws.


Siti Noor Aishah Atam was arrested for possession of books, not even banned in Malaysia, for a terror offence.

Siti Noor Aishah - POCA,POTA..dimansuhkan - Resolusi Badan Peguam

KLSCAH CRC makes it 37 groups calling for the release of Siti Noor Aishah Atam and all victims of Detention Without Trial laws?

 Release Siti Noor Aishah Atam immediately(15 Groups) - Malaysiakini

Flawed Section 130JB Penal Code must not be used pending repeal Release Siti Noor Aishah Atam in prison for possession of unbanned books? (15 Groups)

The first High Court Judgment which acquitted her at the close of the prosecution's case(which is in Malay) could be found here - Siti Noor Aishah Atam - Alasan Penghakiman Mahkamah Tinggi - Mahkamah Bebas Polis Tangkap Lagi Guna POCA??

The 2nd High Court judgment, after the Court of Appeal overturned the High Court judgment, which led to her conviction can be found in this post - Siti Noor Aishah Atam - dipenjarakan 5 tahun memiliki buku yang tidak diharamkan kerajaan. Kini di Mahkamah Rayuan?

Siti Noor Aishah Atam - Release her, and Repeal section 130JB Penal Code?


Malaysia has enacted many 'terror laws' found in the Penal Code and other laws. The question is what exactly are the groups that Malaysia identifies as being 'terrorist groups' ...does it also include some Islamic thoughts and ideologies.

What books are Malaysians supposed to avoid owning, buying, reading ...for if they do, they may be arrested and charged for some 'terror' offence? ...just like Siti Noor Aishah Atam.

Is curiosity and a quest for knowledge an offence in Malaysia? Many may read..many may discuss...but many too will reject or simply not act on what it advocates. Many may think about even killing someone ...but may not act upon it and even reject the idea of others doing so? 

Even in the Siti Noor Aishah Atam's case, foreign scholars were called in as witness to demonstrate that the books were linked to 'terror' groups, ...

Given that Malaysia has many 'terror-linked' offences in the law, the Malaysian government need to to CLEARLY STATE what are these 'terrorist groups'...and what are the 'books,material..' that Malaysians should not be reading....This is long overdue.

What happened to the 8 persons arrested over 'suspected terror links'? Have they been charged in court? Will they be accorded a right to a FAIR TRIAL?

Or have they been simply been placed under some draconian Detention Without Trial law like the POCA or the POTA, which Pakatan Harapan committed to abolish?

Remember, DETENTION WITHOUT TRIAL LAWS - allows for indefinite detention/restrictions with no RIGHT FOR THE VICTIMS to even challenge the reasons they were made victims of this law. There is NO JUDICIAL REVIEW for the reasons POCA, POTA and Detention Without Trial laws have been used against them. Parliament removed the Judiciary's right and function to review the reasons why people have been subjected to such Detention Without Trial Laws..

No media report to tell us what has happened to these 8...and maybe the many other victims of POCA, POTA, etc ...

HOW MANY ARE CURRENTLY BEING DETAINED UNDER POCA? What are the alleged 'reasons' for which they are being detained and/or restricted? Remember POCA can be used for a wide range of reasons - terrorists, smugglers, human traffickers, drug trafficking, committing a penal code offence with one or more, gangs/triads, etc..We need details. Charge and try them all...*the answers obtained by MP Maria Chin was vague and did not contain needed details

HOW MANY ARE CURRENTLY BEING DETAINED UNDER POTA? *the answers obtained by MP Maria Chin was vague and did not contain needed details

HOW MANY ARE CURRENTLY BEING DETAINDED UNDER Dangerous Drugs(Special Preventive Measures) Act?

WHAT ARE THE GROUPS THAT MALAYSIA CONSIDERS TERRORIST GROUPS?[This information must be publicly available in the Police,etc websites]



PARLIAMENT STILL DOES NOT PUBLICLY DISCLOSE WRITTEN QUESTIONS AND WRITTEN ANSWERS PROVIDED TO PARLIAMENTARIANS - So public are kept in the dark, unless particular MP/Senator circulates it to media, etc but very few do, so questions answered by government also not known - and we tend to ask again and again for we know not government has answered. Relevant Ministry websites should also carry these questions and answers -TRANSPARENCY

See related post:-

Bar Resolution for the Repeal of the Prevention of Crime Act 1959 and All Detention Without Trial Laws, and Provision for Compensation for Deprivation of Liberty of the Innocent 

Eight arrested in Malaysia over suspected terror links

Eight men with suspected terrorist links have been rounded up and detained in Malaysia for suspected activities that threatened national security.
Eight men with suspected terrorist links have been rounded up and detained in Malaysia for suspected activities that threatened national security.PHOTO: ROYAL MALAYSIA POLICE
Malaysian police have arrested eight men for suspected terror links and extremist activities that threaten national security.

The suspects - seven foreigners and a Malaysian - were detained by the Bukit Aman Special Branch Counter Terrorism Division in Kuala Lumpur, Perlis and Johor on Sept 24, national police chief Mohamad Fuzi Harun said in a statement yesterday.

Tan Sri Mohamad Fuzi said the suspects were involved with an Islamic learning centre in Perlis believed to be promoting extremist teachings. "The arrests were made following intelligence obtained by police that a terrorist group based on the ideology of Salafi Jihadism in Yemen was planning to set up an Islamic learning centre in South-east Asia to spread the teachings of Salafi Jihadism," he added.

Early investigations by police and shared intelligence from foreign agencies revealed that the centre's foreign teachers and students are linked to a madrasah in Dammaj, Yemen, founded by Syeikh Muqbil bin Hadi Al Wadi'i, a Salafi Jihadism leader and an extremist.

The madrasah follows Salafi Jihadism teachings that allow the killing of non-Muslims and Muslims who do not prescribe to their philosophy. They also label the democratic system as un-Islamic.

It was learnt from the arrested suspects that they believe in extremist teachings, such as banning men and women from wearing trousers. Work is also not allowed as this results in men and women being together, and Muslims who do so are labelled apostates.

The first arrests in Perlis involved five Europeans and a sixth suspect from the American continent, all aged between 24 and 38 years old and students at the Perlis centre.

One of those arrested was related to a citizen of a neighbouring country linked to the Syeikh Muqbil madrasah and who has also undergone weapons training.

Intelligence from a foreign agency revealed that all six are linked to the Daesh terrorist group, also known as the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS), or other extremist organisations.

The seventh arrest, which occurred in Kuala Lumpur, involved a 33-year-old suspect from the Middle East who was a teacher at the Perlis centre. The suspect was conducting classes to spread Salafi Jihadism teachings in Klang Valley.

Police in Johor arrested a 32-year-old Malaysian who was a student at the Perlis centre in 2014.

"The arrests... are to curb the spread of Salafi Jihadism ideology, which is the basis for violent acts by groups such as the Islamic State, Al-Qaeda, Jemaah Islamiah (JI), Abu Sayyaf, Boko Haram and others," said Mr Mohamad Fuzi.

"This is not the first time that foreign Salafi Jihadism elements are using Malaysia as a base to spread their ideology and recruit new members."

He added that JI leaders Abdullah Sungkar and Abu Bakar Bashir infiltrated Malaysia in 1985 for the same purpose.

Malaysia has arrested around 400 people since 2013 for suspected links to terrorism. In 2016, police arrested 115 individuals in the country with links to terrorist groups. There were 82 arrests in 2015, 59 in 2014 and four in 2013.- Straits Times, 7/10/2018

Cops bust terror cult

KUALA LUMPUR: Eight men suspected of terrorist links with groups in Yemen had been planning to spread Salafi Jihadi extremist teachings in the region by making Malaysia its central hub.

Under the guise of an Islamic Learning Centre in Perlis, the cult aims to recruit new members and promote their teachings, which permit the killing of non-Muslims and even Muslims who do not follow their ways.

Sources said the students were required not to shave their beards while wearing trousers was a strict violation.

“One of the students was forced to study by himself because he insisted on wearing jeans.
“The rest of the group would not even acknowledge the student or even wish him ‘salam’,” a source told The Star.
“They are required to wake up early in the morning and surrender themselves fully to the cult’s doctrine.

“To them, life outside the cult is deemed secular which goes against their twisted version of Islam,” said the source, adding that regular work was not permitted as it would involve mingling between men and women.

Bukit Aman’s Counter Terrorism Division arrested the suspects in Perlis, Kuala Lumpur and Johor on Sept 24.

“We believe they are involved with the Islamic Learning centre in Perlis. Some of them are students while others are ex-students and former teachers,” said Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Mohamad Fuzi Harun.

The arrests, he said, were made following shared intelligence between Bukit Aman and foreign intelligence agencies that a Yemen-based terrorist group had been planning to set up a learning centre in South-East Asia.

“Initial investigations showed that the suspects arrested have connections with a madrasah in Dammaj, Yemen, set up by Sheikh Muqbil Hadi Al Wadi’i, a Salafi Jihadi scholar.

“The madrasah follows the Salafi Jihadi teachings that permit the killing of non-Muslims and even Muslims who don’t follow their ways,” he said in a statement here yesterday.

The teachings, which also labelled the democratic system as “toghut” (un-Islamic), formed the basis of most terrorist groups, including the Islamic State (IS), al-Qaeda, Jemaah Islamiyah (JI), Boko Haram and the Abu Sayyaf Group, said Mohamad Fuzi.

“This is not the first time that terror elements have tried to spread Salafi Jihadi teachings in the country. JI leaders Abdullah Sungkar and Abu Bakar Basyir set up schools in Negri Sembilan and Johor in 1985 but we managed to put a stop to it,” he said.

Mohamad Fuzi said the first series of arrests in Perlis involved five Europeans and another from the American continent, aged between 24 and 38.

“We believe all six have connections with IS as well as other terror cells in the region. They are all students of the centre in Perlis,” he said.

One of those arrested was the brother-in-law of a militant from a neighbouring country, who had undergone weapons training, he added.

The seventh suspect arrested was a 33-year-old Middle Eastern man in Kuala Lumpur, who was a teacher at the centre, said Mohamad Fuzi.

“We believe he has been spreading Salafi Jihadi teachings in the Klang Valley under the guise of conducting Islamic classes,” he said.

The last arrest was that of a 32-year-old Malaysian man in Muar, Johor, who was a student at the centre in 2014.

The suspects were arrested under the Security Offences (Special Measures) Act 2012 (Sosma). A total of 433 militants have been detained since February 2013. - Star, 7/10/2018

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