Friday, July 25, 2008

Who will investigate Najib/Rosmah's involvement in the Altantuya affair/murder?

Who will investigate Najib's or Rosmah's involvement in the whole Altantuya affair - including the murder?

Who will investigate the allegations about the police, and the prosecutors that they did take steps not to get the name or person of Najib involved in the Altantuya murder case investigations..?

The court, in the person of the High Court Judge, rejected Karpal Singh's application to get Najib to testify --- but then Karpal was only the lawyer of the family of the victim, and this was a criminal trial - and the only issue is whether the 3 being charged are guilty or not of murder, etc.. (not whether Najib was an accomplice? not whether Najib ordered the killing? or things like that...)

For the Defence, calling Najib to prove that he ordered the killing --- is not going to get the accused off from the charge that they are facing now. In fact, calling Najib may not really be beneficial for those being accussed of murder, etc in that Altantuya case...

It was the police who should have done a thorough investigation with regard to everyone involved including also the person who ordered it done, etc....and then, the prosecution had the duty to charge all who were involved....but this is Malaysia -- and oddly even at one time, the Prosecutor came out and said that no one else is involved ...

So, at the end of the day, it looks that nobody is going to investigate and convince Malaysians whether Najib (or his wife) was or was not involved in that whole Altantuya affair... unless a Royal Commission of Inquiry is set up to clear up all these allegations that is definitely affecting the reputation of Malaysia...

What happened to Raja Petra is so sad. Note Najib(and/or his wife) did not sue Raja Petra for defamation --- but the state charged his for criminal defamation...

Let us also push for that case against Raja Petra to start - and maybe that will be the avenue that the truth will finally come out --- (provided we do not get some judge that will prevent the calling of Najib, Rosmah and/or other relevant witnesses...)

Maybe...let's go for the Royal Commission...

8 comments:

Lord denning said...

What is Justice in a Murder Case?

It is between the Muderer and the Family of the Mudered.

The Family is more important than the Accused.

That's is why in Abrahamic religions , there is the principles of the "compensation" or retributive element as part of punishment and sentence.

The Learned Judge has thrown away all the basic and fundamentals of Justice when rejecting Karpal Singh's application.

Karpal Singh is holding a watching brief for the Family of the murdered victim. It is the aggrievd party.

The State does not grieve.

It is symptomatic of foreigners, particularly Malay lawyers learning and studying English Law/Commonwealth Law to forget to understand what goes behind the the enactment of laws etc ...

It is the underlying theological and philosphical worldviews that eventually make up the Statutes etc of English/Commonwealth Laws.

Justice can only come from Abrahamic theological arguments and reasonings and Greco-Roman philosophical arguments.

This Learned Judge has failed miserably in this area.

He has ignored the pleas of the most important party to the crime, ie. the family.

Shame on the Judge, being a Mulsim !

MarGeeMar said...

This is another smoke screen of deception by Umno to deceive the Rakyat, Pakatan Rakyat and PAS members in particular. After the fallout from it's aborted Muzakarah (dialogue) with rogue elements within PAS (read http://www.malaysiawaves.com/2008/07/apabila-timbalan-presiden-pas-bercakap.html), Umno is now changing it's strategy to say that their muzakarah with PAS will only touch on Islam...http://margeemar.blogspot.com

Samuel Goh Kim Eng said...

In practically any serious murder case
The main question to be answered is related to 'motive'
After the prime suspects have formed the base
Those likely to 'gain' most need to be proven with evidence substantive

(C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng - 260708
http://MotivationInMotion.blogspot.com
Sat. 26th July 2008.

ruyom said...

New Cabinet:



Prime Minister - Anwar

Deputy Prime Minister - Lim Kit Siang

Agriculture Minister -

Community Minister -

Culture Minister - Farish Noor

Defence Minister - Azmin Ali

Education Minister - Nga Kor Ming

Environment Minister - Teresa Kok

Finance Minister - Tony Pua

Foreign Minister - Ramasamy

Health Minister - Tan Seng Giaw

Home Minister - Sivarasa

Information Minister - Jeff Ooi

Law Minister - Teng Chang Khim

Manpower Minister -

Sports Minister -

Technology Minister -

Trade Minister - Khalid

Transport Minister - Liew Chin Tong

Tourism Minister -

(Penang Chief Minister - Lim Guan Eng)

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said…

Why the PeeM and DPeeM must go now because these liars who blocked and spinned lies & deceits in the MSM of the non-existent Oil Subsidies and hike the fuels prices to revenge against the Rakyats for their Poll Defeats in losing the 5 States & 2/3 majority in Parliament, cannot rule for long as they have destroyed the BN and lost the trust of all the Rakyats??? This is why Tun Dr. Mahathir is always correct, they must be removed immediately internally or externally.

Why the Malaysian Police is more interested in the allegation of DSAI than those against of DPeeM Najeeb??? Also, the Malaysian Police has now been tarnished by not serving the Rakyat’s interests but instead becomes the tools for the BN to cling on to Power by bullying the ordinary citizens fighting for their basic rights!!!

Also, why hasn’t the police found the source from where did the C4 came from and the culprit C4 expert who placed the charges and detonated the C4 on the Mongolian Woman, there could not be many real sources of the C4 and nor are there many C4 experts in Malaysia unless there is a conspiracy to cover up. Also, the Immigration Entry record of Atlantuya’s coming into Malaysia was deleted but the Police did not get the Immigration Personnel Culprit who has had the access into the Immigration Computerized System for the Entry Records to have done this in his conspiracy with the Murderers, there could not be many who have authorized access to these Entry Records. The Malaysian Police are now only into the tools of those in power to suppress the truth even Murder.

The Malaysian Police are all not only bullying thugs but also all are cowards who are cowed by the mighty high ranking BN politician and are cowed into covering up for him. The DPeeM has been denying that he ever or never met Altantuya.

The Malaysian Police are nothing but all bullying thugs who know how to bully the ordinary citizens fighting for their basic rights like fighting for the access road in Cheras and also bullying the ordinary citizens who recently protested the fuels price hikes, which did have a domino effect resulting in price hikes in foods and essentials, which should not have been hiked in the first place as well because Malaysia is the nett producer and exporter of Crude Oil and we should be enjoying the windfall profits from Crude Oil like all Oil Producers and Exporters if the Country’s resources are not badly mis-managed by the greedy, corrupted, incompetent & moronic high ranking BN politician who helm the BN Government to hike the fuels prices not out of necessity but out of greed in order to plunder, cheat & rob the Malaysian Citizens of their Purchasing Power & reasonable cost of livelihood in revenge for their GE12’s losses to the opposition. Throw out that despotic moronic rotten tyranny soonest possible to stop the rot now otherwise Malaysia’s wealth could be decimated in no time with such chronic rotten tyranny. So therefore in order to desperately cling to Power they now attempt to use the Police to do their bidding by whatever dirty tricks and cook up evidences to put RPK & DSAI away to save themselves harmless by their under-handed tactics shamelessly as can be seen by planting Saiful to work for DSAI in-order to trap and remove him at the slightest chance.

Also PAS was not born yesterday to be taken in by the Umno's ploy to make use of the full support PAS is getting from the Rakyats of all races because of their present status in the fold of their membership in Pakatan Rakyat. If they leave Pakatan Rakyat to join the power crazy Umno in an evil alliance it is obvious their popularity will be decimated in no time.

See for yourself whether the DPeeM of Malaysia is lying that he never met Altantuya:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTi1l8BV1HM

See for yourself that the Photos are real or fake?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said…

Why the PeeM and DPeeM must go now because these liars who blocked and spinned lies & deceits in the MSM of the non-existent Oil Subsidies and hike the fuels prices to revenge against the Rakyats for their Poll Defeats in losing the 5 States & 2/3 majority in Parliament, cannot rule for long as they have destroyed the BN and lost the trust of all the Rakyats??? This is why Tun Dr. Mahathir is always correct, they must be removed immediately internally or externally.

Why the Malaysian Police is more interested in the allegation of DSAI than those against of DPeeM Najeeb??? Also, the Malaysian Police has now been tarnished by not serving the Rakyat’s interests but instead becomes the tools for the BN to cling on to Power by bullying the ordinary citizens fighting for their basic rights!!!

Also, why hasn’t the police found the source from where did the C4 came from and the culprit C4 expert who placed the charges and detonated the C4 on the Mongolian Woman, there could not be many real sources of the C4 and nor are there many C4 experts in Malaysia unless there is a conspiracy to cover up. Also, the Immigration Entry record of Altantuya’s coming into Malaysia was deleted but the Police did not get the Immigration Personnel Culprit who has had the access into the Immigration Computerized System for the Entry Records to have done this in his conspiracy with the Murderers, there could not be many who have authorized access to these Entry Records. The Malaysian Police are now only into the tools of those in power to suppress the truth even Murder.

The Malaysian Police are all not only bullying thugs but also all are cowards who are cowed by the mighty high ranking BN politician and are cowed into covering up for him. The DPeeM has been denying that he ever or never met Altantuya.

The Malaysian Police are nothing but all bullying thugs who know how to bully the ordinary citizens fighting for their basic rights like fighting for the access road in Cheras and also bullying the ordinary citizens who recently protested the fuels price hikes, which did have a domino effect resulting in price hikes in foods and essentials, which should not have been hiked in the first place as well because Malaysia is the nett producer and exporter of Crude Oil and we should be enjoying the windfall profits from Crude Oil like all Oil Producers and Exporters if the Country’s resources are not badly mis-managed by the greedy, corrupted, incompetent & moronic high ranking BN politician who helm the BN Government to hike the fuels prices not out of necessity but out of greed in order to plunder, cheat & rob the Malaysian Citizens of their Purchasing Power & reasonable cost of livelihood in revenge for their GE12’s losses to the opposition. Throw out that despotic moronic rotten tyranny soonest possible to stop the rot now otherwise Malaysia’s wealth could be decimated in no time with such chronic rotten tyranny. So therefore in order to desperately cling to Power they now attempt to use the Police to do their bidding by whatever dirty tricks and cook up false evidences to put RPK & DSAI away to save themselves harmless by their under-handed tactics shamelessly as can be seen by planting Saiful to work for DSAI in-order to trap and remove him at the slightest chance.

Also PAS was not born yesterday to be taken in by the Umno's ploy to make use of the full support PAS is getting from the Rakyats of all races because of their present status in the fold of their membership in Pakatan Rakyat. If they leave Pakatan Rakyat to join the power crazy Umno in an evil alliance it is obvious their popularity will be decimated in no time.

See for yourself whether the DPeeM of Malaysia is lying that he never met Altantuya:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTi1l8BV1HM

See for yourself that the Photos are real or fake?

SetiaSelalu said...

Why are the Rich & Powerful getting away with murder ?
Where is the consience of Malaysian Society ,The Police,The IGP?
Altantuya knew too much and Deputy Prime Minister, Malaysia,Najib Tun Razak & Rosmah must come forward to clear their involvement in the murder.
The link Najib-Altantuya is so strong in the minds of millions not only in Malaysia but overseas.
Its like a stale bad smell that lingers in the air !
Raja Petra, Anwar Ibrahim ,Karpal Singh, Charles Hector, PAS Leader ,the Private Investigator who has gone into hiding after stating NAJIB did indeed KNOW ALTANTUYA & a few others( are very BRAVEMEN indeed who are sowing the seeds of accountability & decency for future generations of Malaysians)
are BRAVE MEN indeed to have brought Najib-Rosmah name to the fore.
Najib Tun Razak will never recover from this dirty,terrible,ugly shameful stain until who ordered the cruelsome C4 blown ,shooting & killing of a Mother of a Child,a daughter/sister of a loving Family
is resolved.
Where is the Police action on this
Case ?
What kind of Society allow the Rich & Powerful to get away ( and rewarded handsomely in the process of Millions of Taxpayers money) with Murder of such magnitude?
It really stinks to high heaven that the Umno Malays in the Party can accept such a Leader to lead the Country because of favours & patronage they are all enjoying !

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said…

Why both the Kiasu PeeM and Kiasi DPeeM must go now because these liars who blocked and spinned lies & deceits in the MSM of the non-existent Oil Subsidies and hike the fuels prices to revenge against the Rakyats for their Poll Defeats in losing the 5 States & 2/3 majority in Parliament, cannot rule for long as they have destroyed the BN and lost the trust of all the Rakyats??? This is why Tun Dr. Mahathir is always correct, they must be removed with a surgical knife immediately internally or externally.

Why the Malaysian Police is more interested in the allegation of DSAI than those against of DPeeM Najeeb??? Also, the Malaysian Police has now been tarnished by not serving the Rakyat’s interests but instead becomes the tools for the Kiasu BN to cling on to Power by bullying the ordinary citizens fighting for their basic rights!!!

Also, why hasn’t the police found the source from where did the C4 came from and the culprit C4 expert who placed the charges and detonated the C4 on the Mongolian Woman, there could not be many real sources of the C4 and nor are there many C4 experts in Malaysia unless there is a conspiracy to cover up. Also, the Immigration Entry record of Altantuya’s coming into Malaysia was deleted but the Police did not get the Immigration Personnel Culprit who has had the access into the Immigration Computerized System for the Entry Records to have done this in his conspiracy with the Murderers, there could not be many who have authorized access to these Entry Records. The Malaysian Police has now become the tools of those in power to suppress the truths even Murder.

The Malaysian Police are all not only bullying thugs but also all are cowards who are cowed by the mighty high ranking BN politician and are cowed into covering up for him. The DPeeM has been denying that he ever met, nor never met Altantuya.

The Malaysian Police are nothing but all bullying thugs who know how to bully the ordinary citizens fighting for their basic rights like fighting for the access road in Cheras and also bullying the ordinary citizens who recently protested the fuels price hikes, which did have a domino effect resulting in price hikes in foods and essentials, which should not have been hiked in the first place as well because Malaysia is the nett producer and exporter of Crude Oil and we should be enjoying the windfall profits from Crude Oil like all Oil Producers and Exporters if the Country’s resources are not badly mis-managed by the greedy, corrupted, incompetent & moronic high ranking Kiasu BN politician who helm the BN Government to hike the fuels prices not out of necessity but out of greed in order to plunder, cheat & rob the Malaysian Citizens of their Purchasing Power & reasonable cost of livelihood in revenge for their GE12’s losses to the opposition. Throw out that despotic moronic rotten tyranny soonest possible to stop the rot now otherwise Malaysia’s wealth could be decimated in no time with such chronic rotten tyranny. So therefore in order to desperately cling to Power they now attempt to use the Police to do their bidding by whatever dirty tricks and cook up false evidences & to hide PI Balasubramaniam, & to put RPK & DSAI away to save themselves harmless by their under-handed tactics shamelessly as can be seen by planting Saiful to work for DSAI in-order to trap and remove him at the slightest chance. Where has natural justice in Malaysia gone, perhaps most probably gone to the dogs, if Kiasu BN remains in power??? Probably perhaps the only way to get justice done is the Royal Commission of Enquiry as per your suggestion.....

Also PAS was not born yesterday to be taken in by the Kiasu Umno's ploy to make use of the full support PAS is getting from the Rakyats of all races because of their present status in the fold of their membership in Pakatan Rakyat. If they leave Pakatan Rakyat to join the Kiasu power crazy Umno in an evil alliance it is obvious their popularity will be decimated in no time.

See for yourself whether the Kiasi DPeeM of Malaysia is lying that he never met Altantuya:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTi1l8BV1HM

See for yourself that the Photos are real or fake?